The Rules and Guidelines regarding use of 3D images states: "People are allowed to use 3D renders from the net in the photoshop contests, they just have to provide links etc. But it is so much better when they make them themselves. From the guidelines: (UPDATED 08/2009): If you use a 3D program to create a model (eg. with Poser), it is required to post this in your step by step guide. You are allowed to use any program you'd like to make your entry. If you make your own renders, please make screenshots from the object in wireframe modus and show in the Step By Step how you made your render." Whether we agree or not that rule makes this a perfectly valid entry.

Love the colors here. UPon looking at the High res, I think the figure could be better blended into the overall image, she/he looks pasted on.

Yes, 3D aside, I do agree with CMYK. It's a very nice sci-fi photo, but it's pretty fake, unfortunately.

there is no more "3D controversy" MM cleared it up in the forums, good work

Aside from the 3D controversy, I don't see how this image represents a hoax photo.

Oh terribly sorry about that. O.o I missed that entry...moving on now...

To end my annoying rant, I guess I'll just say that I see both sides of the argument, your picture is still awesome, and I wish you luck.

http://www.pxleyes.com/photoshop-picture/4ba89ef0802ef/Lost-Chance.html

I would think the voters spoke well in this case

Okay thought some more about the other side of this argument: 3D is somewhat fair because you could have either pulled the UFO image off the internet or simply made it yourself. You chose the latter, which is perfectly fine, and the PXLeyes guidelines says so. But on the OTHER hand, author, didn't your "Last Chance" meter guard entry get pulled? (I'm really asking you this, it's not rhetorical.) Why exactly? Was it because you used too much 3D and not enough of the source? But then why is that a problem if PXLeyes allows the use of any program? This is what seems so convoluted. Because if they say that any program can be used, then what if you use Photoshop as minimally as possible? Wouldn't the entry get pulled then? So my question is: what is, in everyone's view, the limit that an external program can be used? I think I'll make a forum post about this soon.

Great looking picture, I like how you have incorporated the 3d work into your "PHOTOSHOP" contest image. Palaekman is right there are plenty of free programs out there don't knock it until you've tried it. Just because this member used a 3d program to generate a piece of the picture does not mean it is a guaranteed winner. The photoshop work is still very evident in this entry. Good job author! high marks from me.

Just to repeat again what I said, author, and to echo Langstrum, you have enough great PS skills to do a pure PS entry. If you do, you'll have alot less people giving you low votes because they don't think it's fair. I rest my case, and I don't mean you to change your entry, just think about it for the future.

this is supposed to be a PHOTOSHOP contest.

Agreed, Langstrum. Sorry if I rambled on too much. :p

Because you didn't show the PTS steps, so I just guess this is the part you used PTS, right? Beside that, I agree with Drivenslush that you could replaced the human with the real image (this one looks bad to me). Through other entries of yours, I know that your PTS skill is also very good, you can do a good job even with the pure PTS manipulations and get higher votes from people like me and gamemastertips. Anyway, wish you a good luck with this contest.

This is the Photoshop contest and we can use the 3D program to support our work, not the 3D contest supported by Photoshop. I agree with gamemastertips. If you don't provide enough your technique, people can misunderstand you use only PTS and this is UNFAIR (for example, picking an 3D image is much easier than creating the 3D from the 2D image). However, to gamemastertips, I think this is not the good place for discussing too much, you can do that in the forum. Focusing on this work and as far as the PTS factor is concerned, you might did a good job turning the left UFO into the damaged one.

Just to be clear, I never said you cheated. Just thought maybe the 3D was used a bit too much. But, thanks, Nator. I suppose I neglected to look in the most obvious place for the existing guidelines.

BTW, author, why'd you delete all your comments? Now I look like I'm talking to myself.

Pretty cool! The bright UFO light above the alien should be creating highlights on the top surfaces of the alien (e.g., head and butt) with a corresponding shadow on the ground. I think a much brighter center for the light spot the alien is standing in would be much more dramatic. Also, I find the bright spot on the clouds in the center of the image distracting. (It would be interesting to experiment with moving the big-UFO/alien elements to the right a bit instead of being centered.)

Not much, really. Eventually, just some guidelines should be put in place. Until then, it's just my opinion, and I know of a few other people who will most probably criticize you for using 3D software...*coughCMYKcough*...and one of your nice meter guard entries did ultimately get pulled, didn't it? Maybe just try to limit the use of 3D in your future entries...you'll get less haters and have less risk of being pulled. Good luck, author.

That's a shame if the same thing happens 3D contests, but does that mean that it still has to happen here?

Does it really say anywhere "you are allowed to use 3D programs?" And anyway, as I said before, it's not the program that seems unfair, it's the extent of it. When a small part of the image is 3D, fine. But when the main components of it are, it becomes more of 3D contest than a PS one.

There is a free 3d program called Blender. And since you're allowed to use 3d programs, I don't see why you're complaining? sbs would be nice author. Good luck

It's very good, with no shadow of a doubt! But I think the most of people here - including me - don't have a 3D program - look, I'm not criticizing you... but it's clear that things go better when you have the tools!

This is gorgeous!!! though it doesn't look like a hoax photo.. it just looks like a spectacular sci fi piece (I would keep this image but replace the human with a real one so you have a better chance of winning the contest) it really is a supreme image though.. I really love it

amaizing... waiting for the SBS

Nice! Doesn't look much like a hoax photo though, but mood is very nice.

EDIT: Wait...I saw the high-res. This is another 3D image, isn't it?

GL

very brooding image you have created. nice work. GL

Good image.

CMYK and Pearlie have a point. Traditional drawings are not allowed in digital drawing contests and vice/versa and I don't think any of those are allowed in the 3D contests. It makes sense.

Nice work!

Okay I'm not taking anyone's side (still think the picture is awesome) but I can see CMYK's point. Maybe there should be some kind of guideline implemented as to what programs are allowed, so that arguments like this don't arise.

Nice work very good....

It's really a very impressive work, but I agree with Langstrum about the skeleton hand (glove) and the hole...

I have some suggestions. The model wears the black globe with the image of the skeleton, so in the Hi Res this globe is noticeable; the black hole on the wall is not black enough, we can see the non-cleared brick, also the hole looks not natural; the region behind the skull, on the cloak should be much darker. If you fix them, I'll give the high vote

Impressive.

agree with Author

Nice work....

like it

Author, I gave my honest assessment of the work before knowing who made it. My comment was strictly on the work, and not a personal attack. I will not presume to speak for Pearlie, but she obviously agrees with me judging from her comment. Maybe you should stop relying on 3D software that does things for you, and pre-posed & pre-lit & pre-costumed DA pics, and get some talent yourself.

This is mostly 3D software and someone else's work from DA. As Pearlie said, this is supposed to be a Photoshop contest...it's bad enough that Poser is allowed.

nice mood and everything, but this is supposed to be a PHOTOSHOP contest, not a 3D contest. Hello, does anyone else realize this?

Awesome, I love this! Amazingly ominous entry!

nice... looks to me like some scene of a game.. where my task is to come n meet this guy to proceed further...

It's sinister and awesome at the same time!... Just one thing: if the grey rat is under the man's shadow, it needs to be a little darker; in hi res it's possible to see the contrast.

grats

congratulatioins for winning!...i really like this though...but oh well...nice and great work!

congrats for the second place

congrats for 2nd genuine2009

Eh, why not? they already make all the cool electric gizmos anyways.

my apologies, i take it back. Nice work

not bad